> Ev:
> >No, a trivial amount of people get killed by criminals, at least in
> >Canada, especially once you eliminate (i) domestic homicides, and (ii)
> >stabbings in bars. There's basically not much "killing by criminals"
> >left after that. Heck, I lived in Winnipeg the year it was momentarily
> >the murder capital of Canada (I think this meant 21 killings in 600,000)
> >-- and still the chance of getting killed by criminals was essentially
> >zero, unless (i) people in your family killed you, or (ii) you were in the
> >wrong bars arguing with knife-wielding people. The odds of being killed
> >by strangers in your home in anyplace I've ever lived simply aren't worth
> >worrying about, and they sure as heck aren't worth doling out 400 million
> >guns to the general populace. There just isn't _that_ much violent crime,
> >and it hasn't increased at all in the last decade, in Canada or the US.
> >
>
> That's fair, I can see where you're coming from. I lived in Manhattan for
> many years. I literally saw one guy get beheaded with a sword in a deli. I
> saw two people shot to death on diferent occasions (central manhattan, main
> streets, midday). I saw a drug deal in a sub go wrong and one guy was
> not-fatally injured. Outside the chryselr bldg on 42nd and lex two gang
> dudes stabbed each other mutually to death 20 inches in front of me at
> about 11AM as I was wandering into the office. I stumbled upon at least,
> oh, 4 people who were severely mugged/raped whatever (typically in downtown
> manhattan) when I was coming home late. Once a random nut bust down the
What? Do you really want to say you just stumble on people who have been
mugged (or even worse - raped) and take no action? I feel I never will
come to US - for no reason at all.
> door on a friend's apartment, wandered in, shot up the walls, yelled a lot
> and blew his own brains out. (!) I found a taxi driver who'd been
> murdered in brooklyn once. Living on White st. I heard a shot one day and
> on the news the next day it was a lady had been shot in the head to death
> out on the street by a car-jacker type .. what can I say?
>
>
Sander
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