I also don't think Yugoslavia/Bosnia provides a good example of social
progress. Seems to me that these groups got along because they were
told to by the Soviets. In other words, their fear became stronger
than their hatred. And this is just my point: fear, hatred, love, &
other experiences that speak to people on both personal and universal
levels are precisely the cause of things being the same no matter where
you go. I mean, hell, look at the Japanese. They're racially/
culturally homogenous, but they invented a subclass of their own
people ( called "dowa") just so they'd have somebody to feel superior
to. Racism where there's only one race, one culture? Seems
to me like things *are* the same everywhere. I'm not saying people
should accept all this as "human nature," just that the reality of the
situation is global and relentless. Tony
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on Tue, 12 Dec Tony said:
> Trond, you didn't hurt my feelings :) . I was mainly
nah, i didn't really think so either... ;-)
irony, Tony, irony ;-)
> saying that things are the same no matter where you go. That's all.
and i say that you are wrong. things are different. there are bad
things, and worse things, and even sometimes something a little
better things. and if you choose to concentrate o n l y on the bad
and worse, and never shed a little light on the examples of things
being just a little bit better, you (and i don't mean you, Tony)
end up saying that there's no hope at all. that may be right for all
i know, but i refuse to accept it. simple as that. it's hopeless, and
we'll never give up! or something like that.....
have a nice day :-)
tb
(who maybe even thinks that Yugoslavia was one example of things being
just a little better... after all, people there managed to live in
peace for close to 50 years, after centuries of conflict. if only the
power hungry political killers allied to european super-powers hadn't
decieded that it was time for some war to strengthen their own
power...)
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