From - Wed Jan 14 14:55:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from relay2.UU.NET by mrco.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17308; Fri, 29 Jan 93 14:09:14 EST Received: from nyx.cs.du.edu by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA17207; Fri, 29 Jan 93 13:48:45 -0500 Received: by nyx.cs.du.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12381; Fri, 29 Jan 93 11:30:20 MST From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy) Message-Id: <9301291830.AA12381@nyx.cs.du.edu> X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of Denver. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions or correct identity of users. Subject: FutureCulture Digest #201 To: future-digest@nyx.cs.du.edu Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 11:30:19 MST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Content-Length: 25732 X-Lines: 630 ______________________________________________________________________ |______________ / | | / | | u t u r e <___________ u l t u r e | _______________________________________________________________________| Issue #201 Friday, January 29th 1993 Today's Topics: --------------- Announcing 10-Base-T RAVE RADIO Clothing crypto, surfpunks neural implants re : Quicktime/VR re: lin Re: neural implants Re: Persian citizens Re: Please, make me violently nauseous... Re: Quicktime/VR Re: [surfpunk-0036] CRYPT: Re: [surfpunk-0036] CRYPT: Sci Am on Public Key Cryptosystems Re:neural hacking staying unnoticed VR info (ship) VR info (ship) (fwd) VR Info (vr room) VR Info (vr room) (fwd) VRinfo VRship Hamburg: Call for Participation [lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE: VRinfo] [lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE: VRship Hamburg: Call for Participation __________________________________________________________________________ From: Nowhere Man Subject: Re: [surfpunk-0036] CRYPT: Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 01:35:57 -0500 (EST) jcoryell@nwu.edu (John Coryell.) says: [...] > Caveat: I'm also so paranoid that the only way I'd provide my key is > face to face, person to person, and I'm also going to try to have a With public keys this is not necessary. Make the public key available to anyone. It doesn't compromise your security. > different key for each separate individual's account (not just person) > that I would send encryption to. [...] For Eris' sake why?! That is totally unnecessary. -- ( Nowhere Man ) Please do not use this document ( rpowers@panix.com ) as toilet tissue. ______________________________ Date: 29 Jan 1993 00:56:15 -0600 From: hiroki@limerick.cbs.umn.edu (Hiroki Morizono) Subject: Re:neural hacking For reasons too stupid to mention I don't have a nice little pre-followup inset to include here.... But I heard that NIH has a big push to do some direct-into-the head wiring It was in the context of cochlear implants for the hearing impaired, but instead of juicing the cochlea with a little current, electrodes were to be stuck in the brain and not the auditory nerves. Whether or not what gets stimulated/simulated results in hearing as we know it is something else. ----Rockeye ______________________________ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:49:39 -0800 (PST) From: Dolgnagerdyia Friltkashnovist Subject: staying unnoticed One thing about the encryption issue that hasnt really been taken into consideration, is the relativity of the "crime" owning an encryption program is very threatening to the government, yes, but take into consideration mob mentality. With drugs, cops don't waste their time busting small parties and small time users ONLY because so many people do it. At a place i used to work, in downtown seattle, we had a cop walk in on us while the room was permeated with smoke. he walked back out just as casually. If the number of people owning and using encrypted email software became great enough, there would be no way for them to attempt to keep tabs on everyone. It would also be just as futile to sue everyone who was "violating" copyright laws. thus if one remained inconspicuous, they would never waste their time on you. We also have to consider that the government seems to really get off on scaring people with bluffs. and the press has sometimes contributed to it. The government is only so big, and if they can keep us tame before we get bigger than they are, then they have saved themselves alot of sleepless nights. In facI dont believe that they can realisticly back up any of their threats about encryption software that they have made so far. BUT here is my disclaimer. everything said above was not to incite illegal action. it was just for hypothetical discussion...liq ______________________________ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 23:12:06 -0800 (PST) From: Dolgnagerdyia Friltkashnovist Subject: neural implants in reply to the post about the implant that hooks up to the brain rather than the auditory nerve: now that we DO or soon wioll have the tech to have the sf equivelant of cybernetic implants, and in reverance of the clothing thread, how far WOULD you people go in replacing body parts? I would probably only do it if those body parts were not completely healthy. liq ______________________________ From: Shalmaneser Subject: re: lin Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 23:22:13 PST Hi folks, I tried to mail Clinton at compuserve, and it got returned for the reason "not enough room in mailbox, could not deliver as addressed".. does anyone know anything about this? Could it be that the White House people are not familiar with traffic levels that are common to us? :) nah, i doubt it. Kevin ~ZZ ______________________________ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 1:45:49 CST From: "Peter A. McNamara" Subject: Re: neural implants I would never replace something that was healthy with a mechanical bit, but I dont have any problem with things like... pacemakers, prothstetic (i CANT spell that word) limbs if the originals stopped working. I would probably sign up for the direct neural implant for the ears, but probably not for the eyes. Oh, I wouldnt agree to the direct neural implant if it meant having wires sticking out of my ears UNLESS I could plug them into stereo's and things like that.. (hehe) The various under-the-skin implants (available and sci-fi) would probably be ok, too- for birth control, or blood pressure, etc monitoring, or even esoteric stuff like... a beeper that sets up various combinations of itches (i dunno) Whatever- Maybe thats too conservative? Pete pam5@ellis.uchicago.edu "Fools! I'll destroy them all!" ______________________________ Subject: VR Info (vr room) (fwd) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 3:11:30 EST From: Mitchell Porter Forwarded message: ______________________________ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 12:24:14 EST From: mal@socpsy.sci.fau.edu Subject: VR Info (vr room) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 12:25:18 MST From: eiverson@NMSU.Edu Subject: [lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE: VRinfo] Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin Path: nmsu.edu!lynx!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de!unidui!rrz.uni-koeln.de!rrz.uni-koeln.de!aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE!lm011 From: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek) Subject: VRinfo Message-ID: <1992Dec31.173230.199826@rrz.uni-koeln.de> Sender: news@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Usenet News System) Reply-To: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek) Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:32:30 GMT Lines: 99 Keywords: KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH - HAMBURG VR PROJECT Thank you very much for your interest. Here is the information you requested: An interactive, walk-in, data base will be installed in two of the cargo holds (originally used as freezer rooms), on the freight ship Cap San Diego, in Hamburg harbour. The first cargo hold, a physical walk-in room corresponds to a self- organising, artificial data room made up of sound data, which will be called up, from aroundthe world, in the form of short musical or verbal sound statements.Visitor will navigate through the physical room with the aid of anultrasonic room sensor and an artificial eye, (a small mon- itor receiving orientation information via radio waves which is placed in front of one eye). The sensor and private eye allows the visitor to be informed about, and interact, with the virtual room. As a virtual visitor you are integrated into a computer system, which rebuilds rules of a self-organising complex organism (a model by Prigogine). From the characteristics of the sound statements, these rules build an interactive system similar to a cultural community and influence the behaviour of the carriers of musical and verbal data (the agents). The visitor can make contact with these 'agents' as he navigates through the room, and can activate their sound information, producing a real-time concert in the physical room. The resulting virtual reality, with constantly changing new structures of agent groups, can be observed at all times from the control room (the second cargo hold). Information about progress in the virtual room is displayed via a large video projection. Further monitors inform the visitor about the arrival and geographic origin of the sounds in the data bank, the state and developments in the real, and artistic sound room, and describe the use of the ultrasonic sensor and the artificial eye display. How to send sound files to KR+cF: Please send your sound files in AIFF format (audio interchange file format, see Inside Macintosh, Volume VI", chapter 22: p. 22-33). We can also read next and wave formats. You may send standard audio tapes or DAT tapes with your recording as well. The sample should be a sound statement and express your personal attitude towards the world. What we need is musical material, verbal sound or noise, which can be collected in and help to create our virtual space. Your sound sample should be in mono and about 6 seconds. It might be a good idea to use your name and country as a file name, e.g. mike_mueller_germany.aiff. Let us know if anything is not clear. This is your chance to be part of a unique virtual enviroment, which will be explored by many visitors during the duration of the exhibition. We look forward receiving your statements and incorporating your contribution into the virtual room Please send it as soon as possible. Specific information on how to send us your details: Parameters (preferred: 8 bit, 32 kHz): length: max. 6 seconds resolution: 8, 12 or 16 bit sample rate: 22, 32 or 44.1 kHz sound type: mono Sending your file (e.g. mike_mueller_germany.aiff): via UNIX mail (INTERNET) type the following at the UNIX prompt: uuencode mike_mueller_germany.aiff mike_mueller_germany.aiff | \ mail krcf_snd@khm.uni-koeln.de via anonymous ftp type the following at the UNIX prompt: ftp obelix.khm.uni-koeln.de anonymous /* enter anonymous as login name */ your_name /* enter your name as password */ bin /* switch to binary transfer mode */ send mike_mueller_germany.aiff via COMPUSERVE (e.g. on Apple Macintosh): use the program BinHex or STUFFIT to translate the binary sound file into ASCII code. your file must be less than 560 KByte which can be achieved by using the preferred parameters of 8 bit resolution and 32 kHz sample rate. In COMPUSERVE enter the following commands: go mail 3 (upload a message) 2 (select a protocol) 1 (e.g. XMODEM/protocol) 1 (ASCII transfer type) mike_mueller_germany.aiff.ascii (file name) 1 (send) >INTERNET:krcf_snd@khm.uni-koeln.de aiff file (subject) your_name (your name) If you send us a standard audio tape or dat, please post it to: Knowbotic Research Weyerstrasse 49 5000 Cologne 1 Germany We will send your material back. Thank you for your support. Christian Huebler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mal "Wisdom comes through age or superior Mal@socpsy.sci.fau.edu technology " -- Electro the Robot ACT NOW! YOUR SOUL IS IN PERIL! SUBSCRIBE TO PURPS TODAY! Write to: HailOtis@socpsy.sci.fau.edu to find out more. And Behold! The Credible Shall be Hosed! And the Hosed shall be saved! ______________________________ Subject: VR info (ship) (fwd) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 4:23:18 EST From: Mitchell Porter Forwarded message: ______________________________ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 12:26:16 EST From: mal@socpsy.sci.fau.edu Subject: VR info (ship) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 12:25:51 MST From: eiverson@NMSU.Edu Subject: [lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE: VRship Hamburg: Call for Participation ] Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin From: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek) Subject: VRship Hamburg: Call for Participation Keywords: Sounds Reply-To: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek) Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:31:39 GMT Call for international participation in new art/science project. KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH Simulation Room -Mosaic of Mobile Sound Data We are a group of artists and scientists at the Academy of Media Arts Cologne, and will be showing a VR installation in February at the MEDIALE93 - Festival for Media Arts and Media Future - in Hamburg, Germany. The installation, housed in the freight ship Cap San Diego in Hamburg - harbour, has three main areas. Section one is a sophisticated, walk - in data - base utilising a collection of sound samples from around the world, which will be used to produce a virtual 'sound room'. The sound data will correspond to the second section, a physical room, where visitors will be able to navigate through the space with the aid of a mobile ultrasonic sensor and an artificial eye display and activate the data to a realtime-concert. The action of the visitors, within this 'virtual organism,' will be displayedon a video screen shown in a control room area (the third area). We welcome your participation for the international sound - data - base: To participate in this international project we need from you a 6 second long sound sample, a cultural statement, reflecting your personal attitude towards the "world". Please send this via email or ftp. (aiff, wave, next formats) All participants and institutions will be credited in a publicly displayed database during the exhibition. For more information by email from: kr+cf@khm.uni-koeln.de Thank you for your support - KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mal "Wisdom comes through age or superior Mal@socpsy.sci.fau.edu technology " -- Electro the Robot ACT NOW! YOUR SOUL IS IN PERIL! SUBSCRIBE TO PURPS TODAY! Write to: HailOtis@socpsy.sci.fau.edu to find out more. And Behold! The Credible Shall be Hosed! And the Hosed shall be saved! ______________________________ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 10:09:02 +0100 From: tor@geomatic.no (Tor Langballe) Subject: Re: Quicktime/VR mcarpent@ecn.purdue.edu (Matthew A Carpenter) writes: >(summary) >...Quicktime is getting cheap -> Soon we'll have VR.. Well, I see your point, but quicktime will only allow recorded stuff to be played at full spead. To interact with a user, you need 3D graphics speed more than video speed. I.e cheap silicon graphics type boards. -Tor ______________________________ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 13:09:40 +0100 From: cardell@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Please, make me violently nauseous... I think Mr. Garcia's problem with the little survey of mine just carried out on FC is the way he sees the replies. No clothes are KOOLer than others, what I was interested in was if the people calling themselves cyberpunks (or whatever) have some similarity regarding clothing and what they wear. mikael cardell S P U N K P R E S S ______________________________ From: mcarpent@ecn.purdue.edu (Matthew A Carpenter) Subject: re : Quicktime/VR Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 8:31:50 EST Tor writes : To interact with a user, you need 3D graphics speed more than video speed. True only to a point. As I pointed out, the speed of graphics boards are to the point where high-end commercial boards ARE fast enough for this type of interactive graphics. Quicktime in the commercial realm at this point is only to show pre-made pictures, however there is work being done, even here at Purdue involving interactive quicktime video and interactive video packages external of quicktime that are being successfully developed for use (right now) in chemical simulations. -Matt ______________________________ From: "Spam@tin.supermarket.tescos" Subject: Re: [surfpunk-0036] CRYPT: Sci Am on Public Key Cryptosystems Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 14:10:50 +0000 (GMT) Spam, spam, egg and Shaun Lowry : => =>> The philosophies of PEM and PGP differ most visibly with respect to =>>key management, the crucial task of ensuring that the public keys that =>>encode messages actually belong to the intended recipient rather than a =>>malevolent third party. PEM relies on a rigid hierarchy of trusted =>>companies, universities and other institutions to certify public keys, =>>which are then stored on a "key server" accessible over the Internet. => =>So, anyone intercepting mail to a certain person can, if the message is =>encrypted, request that person's key from the server, and decrypt it =>themselves? Great. You've convinced me to use it. NOT. No no no - the key server gives the PUBLIC key of the person - that is only useful for ENCRYPTING the message - to decrypt you need the private key, and that only belongs to the person in question and is NEVER distributed. => =>>To send private mail, one asks the key server for the public key of the =>>addressee, which has been signed by the appropriate certification =>>authorities. PGP, in contrast, operates on what Zimmermann calls "a =>>web of trust": people who wish to correspond privately can exchange =>>keys directly or through trusted intermediaries. The intermediaries =>>sign the keys that they pass on, thus certifying their authenticity. => =>Seriously, the only way to send secure mail with this sort of =>encryption is to exchange keys with the person you're corresponding =>with in a secure way, i.e. meet them in the flesh. => You don't need to with public key encryption, that's the whole point..... Spam. ______________________________ From: Karl L. Barrus Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 08:28:36 -0600 Subject: crypto, surfpunks >So, anyone intercepting mail to a certain person can, if the message is >encrypted, request that person's key from the server, and decrypt it No no no. PEM is based on public key cryptography, where you encrypt with a public key and decrypt with a differeny (private) key. Your public key is stored on the server so anyone can encrypt a message to you. However, you keep your private key secret so only you can decrypt a message. >Sending encrypted mail isn't something we should have to do. It's not the >Internet's "scene". The Internet, as I see it, is based purely on trust and Well, to draw an analogy, do you ever send mail via the post office? You do?? Since I'm sure you have nothing to hide, why don't you write is on postcards so everyone can easily read it? /-----------------------------------\ | Karl L. Barrus | | barrus@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXTMail) | | elee9sf@menudo.uh.edu | \-----------------------------------/ ______________________________ From: "Canton Becker" Subject: Announcing 10-Base-T RAVE RADIO Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 8:44:37 CST 1010110101101001011010101101010110101011010110101011010110101010110101011101 01 11 Announcing 1O-BA5E-T 00 RAVE RAD10 10 0n 11 89.3 WNUR FM 11 EveRy FR1DAY N1TE 01 3:00 AM 1 A psych0ac0u5t1c f0rum netw0rk1n6 th05e 1nd1v1dua1s 1n th15 dream 5cene trance dance we ca11 "RAVE"... W0r1d prem1ers of 0r1g1na1 techn0 m1x1n6, b1t1ng c0mmentar1es on the genera1 state 0f th1n6s, eye-0pen1n6, m1nd-expl0d1ng w0r1ds 0f w0rds 0ver a med1um 0f pure ener6y. Be5t 1f 1n6e5ted LOUDLY. Insp1rat1on Headph0ne5 recc0mended f0r fu11 dan6er. *** TONIGHT *** LisTen AftEr YoU Rave. Record It. SpRead it. BrOadCasTinG At 50+ Kwatz, plaguing Chicagoland with the truth over a bed of pure dance. TUNE IN. ZONE OUT. SPEAK. Submissions of voice, music, texts, ANYTHING: ten-base-t@antioch.acns.nwu.edu or Freeform Producer 10-Base-T Radio 1905 Sheridan Rd. Evanston, IL 60208-2260 ------------------------------------=o=--------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________________ Hola, guyz... Though limited to the Chicagoland, I'll be happy to mail copies of 10-Base-T via snailmail... It's wildly pre-produced cybertropic psycho-acoustic mahem. I'll compile stuff onto a hi-bias 90 minute (which will give you about a show and a half worth- best segments thereof) and mail it to you for (I don't know.... What's reasonable? $2.75 tape + $2.50 shipping equals a fuzzy five bucks, maybe?) SUBMISSIONS very welcome, either audio or elsewise. Send .au files, if you feel inspired. -Canton (DJ.ET) ______________________________ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 10:25:11 EST From: dewind@acsu.buffalo.edu (Padraig) Subject: neural implants In message , Dolgnagerdyia Friltkashnovist wrote: : now that we DO or soon wioll have the tech to have the sf :equivelant of cybernetic implants, and in reverance of the clothing :thread, how far WOULD you people go in replacing body parts? : Me? Well I'd replace my left leg. Perhaps I'd get my eyes done too. those are the only parts of my body that are messed up. Although having one metallic hand could be fun too... :) -Padriag ______________________________________________________________________________ Patrick DeWind | dewind@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu SUNY at Buffalo | V077PW3W@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU | ACSOPTD@UBVMS.BITNET "She's been everybody else's girl...maybe | one day she'll be her own." Tori Amos |Be afraid! Be VERY afraid!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ______________________________ From: jesse@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Jesse Davis) Subject: Re: Persian citizens Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 12:33:41 EST Al Billings Speaks: Gee, let's blame everyone for individuals. I say we go kill all Persian people because of the way Iran treated American citizens 13 years ago while we are at it. We're working on it, haven't you noticed? :( ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jesse Davis | | |jesse@picasso.ocis. | "Beyond this there is fog." | | temple.edu | -Vladimir Nabakov | | 215-545-3724 | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ______________________________ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 18:58:30 +0100 From: d89-joh@nada.kth.se Subject: Clothing Hi there! I havent had time to read my mail for a while but I thought I should tell you all what I'm wearing at the moment. White and blue striped buttondown-shirt (Yeah the type all the phony yuppies are wearing), navy blue trousers, white socks, a suitjacket and sailing shoes with a rough sole. When I go out I wear a green trenchcoat sort of long jacket (down to my knees) and a black baseballcap (It snows here in Sweden at this time of the year). Yeah and I forgot a pair of Pilotstyle plastic glasses hanging on my nose. This all sounds very normal you think but the thing is I have long brown/red hair, a moustache (spelling) and a goatee-beard. All this taken together and I will guarantee that you will get quite a few remarks from your environment. Ok so you are all bored with the clothing thread but I just wanted to contribute to this as I read this group and the AUtopia group with much hope that all the things we dream of will come true. To Andy and Jagwire X: Keep up the good work I and I'm sure a lot of others enjoy your lists a lot. You have been harassed by: Johan Lindgren d89-joh@nada.kth.se johan-li@dsv.su.se Things to think about: Girls are like a soap under water. Easy to see but one major problem to get a grip on. Never thank for the food until you know you will keep it. _________________________________________________________________________ | | | That's all for today! | | To send a message to the list: future@nyx.cs.du.edu | | To subscribe/unsubscribe/change format: future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu | | All other requests: future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu | | List Maintainer is: (andy [aka hawkeye]) ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu | |_________________________________________________________________________| | | | The opinions expressed in FutureCulture are those of the individual | | author only. | |_________________________________________________________________________|