From - Wed Jan 14 16:21:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from relay1.UU.NET by mrco.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA27431; Mon, 8 Feb 93 01:36:39 EST Received: from nyx.cs.du.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA11406; Mon, 8 Feb 93 01:29:35 -0500 Received: by nyx.cs.du.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02655; Sun, 7 Feb 93 23:30:13 MST From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy) Message-Id: <9302080630.AA02655@nyx.cs.du.edu> X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of Denver. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions or correct identity of users. Subject: FutureCulture Digest #218 To: future-digest@nyx.cs.du.edu Date: Sun, 7 Feb 93 23:30:12 MST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 ______________________________________________________________________ |______________ / | | / | | u t u r e <___________ u l t u r e | _______________________________________________________________________| Issue #218 Sunday, February 7th 1993 Today's Topics: --------------- auto-post to alt.cp Passion Sources, cont. Passion, World Music Problem with list content Re: Religion again.... Starting mailing lists __________________________________________________________________________ From: Joe Pollock Subject: Passion Sources, cont. Date: Sun, 7 Feb 93 11:34:51 PST > | Even better yet is _Passion_Sources_ the music left-over after > | production of the same film. A whole lot of traditional music > | which was recorded on location in North Africa and Morocco was > | put in this collection. If you liked _Passion_, you'll love > | _Passion_Sources_. > | > > | Steve J. White homoNuevo > > So where might I get a copy? Is this a "Peter Gabrial" release, or is it under some other category? > > Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU > BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development > Some good sources: The REALWORLD label (Peter Gabriel) and RYKODISC (Mickey Hart) have probably done the most to popularize this music and make it readily available. MANGO and AXIOM have released a log of good material, as well. SHANACHIE is heavily into the most electric end of the worldbeat spectrum, more ethnopop than ethnic (which is not to say I don't like the music. It is very different from _Passion Sources_, however. Some important artists (but don't limit yourself): Ali Farka Toure (Mali, electric and acoustic) Baaba Maal (Senegal, electric and acoustic) Youssou N'Dour (Senegal, electric and acoustic) Ustad Alla Rakha and Zakir Hussain (India, father and son percussionists) Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn (Pakistan, vocal and percussion) Hamza El Din (Nubian, percussion and strings) All of the above are artists of international stature, regularly touring the USA and Europe. Ali Kahn is currently artist-in-residence at the University of Washington (Hamza El Din was there a number of years ago). Major music chains tend to file this music in the International or World Pop sections, although I've seen it slip into New Age, as well. Most clerks know nothing about it. The music itself has been available for years, on small labels and as imports, and on specialty labels like Folkways. Hamza El Din made several recordings for Vangard, and _Eclipse_ was released as an lp in, I believe, 1978 (the CD came out in 1988). I also highly recommend the Mickey Hart book _Planet Drums_. Joe Pollock The Evergreen State College ______________________________ From: ahawks (the big penis) Subject: Problem with list content Date: Sun, 7 Feb 93 13:43:19 MST If someone has a problem with the content of this list, please mail to *me*, not root or the sysadmins or the mail-gurus here, etc. If you and I can not work it out, *then* feel free to mail the sysadmins here, but talk with me first, damnit. you don't call Bill Clinton if the paperboy forgot to bring you the New York times, right? -- andy ______________________________ From: ahawks (the big penis) Subject: auto-post to alt.cp Date: Sun, 7 Feb 93 14:00:06 MST can someone tell me if my auto-post re: this list gets out to people receiving alt.cp....i'd also like to know if it looks ok on everyone else's end.... i think i'm going to stop reading usenet altogether..... -- andy ______________________________ From: Joe Pollock Subject: Re: Religion again.... Date: Sun, 7 Feb 93 13:43:43 PST > > I feel that with true cyberspace, video dialtone, etc., it won't > matter for most of us where we work in relation to the company we're > working for. There could be a mass exodus from cities to rural areas, > oceans, space, etc. Only shipping and recreation/education should > produce much travel. > Agree, to some extent. We would break the rigid association between employment and location. but consider the other side effects. Would a mass dispersion of humanity (at least on the planetary surface) be desirable? It would spread infrastructure - roads, power grids, housing - to areas currently unsuitable because of travel time, etc. Probably the only thing protecting what's left of our wilderness areas. The future of humanity is not a bunch of loners spread out on ten-acre plots in the woods and telecommuting to work. The future is more likely quality high- density housing (150+ people/acre) designed to minimize environmental impact and maximize undeveloped land. And still telecommuting to work. > That would eliminate huge amounts of pollution from workers and their > offices. > ...And move it into their homes. Which produces less polution, a large laser printer serving a workgroup, or twenty-five personal laser printers? And we have to consider the social aspects of work, which are also important (I'm probably talking to the wrong group here... :-). How about planned, high-density communities with generic workspace where full office services could be provided, but where workers would tele- commute to any place on the globe? I believe it would be highly undesirable for society to disperse into an infinity of individuals connected only through fibers. And ecological suicide to do so without reducing the total population by an order of magnitude or two. > Put on you eyephones and chording keyboard, if not jack in, while you > take a walk thru your forest.... or lie in your economy > basement-or-loft apartment. > > sdw Joe Pollock The Evergreen State College ______________________________ From: sdelmont@conicit.ve (Sebastian Delmont (U...U...UCV)) Subject: Passion, World Music Date: Sun, 7 Feb 93 22:36:46 AST I LOVE PASSION!!! I really like Peter Gabriel. The music from the Film _Birdy_ is also really good. Yossou N'Dour is called the World Beat SuperStar, and has many great songs. He was launched by Gabriel, but after some disputes, went his own way. BTW, has any of you heard the music from the film _Arizona Dream_? It's done by a Yugoslavian musician. Really good. Regards, Sebastian -- |%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%| * * Life starts at '030, |%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%| * = Sebastian Delmont = * gets fun at '040, | ***** | * * impotency at '86. | ** ** | * * /// |###############| * VENEZUELA * \\\/// Only Amiga |###############| * * \XX/ makes it possible! "From the pain come the dream, from the dream come the vision, from the vision come the people, and from the people come the power. ______________________________ From: this! ______________________________ Subject: Starting mailing lists Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 0:52:00 EST From: Mitchell Porter How do mailing lists get started? I know that Andy got FutureCulture underway by approaching his sysop at Nyx, but how does a new LISTSERV list come about, say? I ask this because the response the "Alpha and Omega" stuff has received suggests that it could do with a list, or at least an alias to bounce things off, and there are several other projects floating around that perhaps have a similar collaborative nature. _________________________________________________________________________ | | | That's all for today! | | To send a message to the list: future@nyx.cs.du.edu | | To subscribe/unsubscribe/change format: future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu | | All other requests: future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu | | List Maintainer is: (andy [aka hawkeye]) ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu | |_________________________________________________________________________| | | | The opinions expressed in FutureCulture are those of the individual | | author only. | |_________________________________________________________________________|